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# Mikhail of the West
* This appeared at some point as a mis-spelling of Mikha'il of the West. The error was corrected in February of 2007 (via the West)
* This appeared in November of 2006 (via the West) as a mis-spelling of Mikha'il of the West. The error was corrected in February of 2007 (via the West)

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The first bullet point is superceded by the second.

Herveus: corrected


# Scannlach Faolscatha
* This appeared in July of 1989 (via Caid).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of cScannlach Faolscįtha.

I think there's an extra "c" here; the registered name is <Scannlach Faolscįtha>.

Herveus: corrected


# Kaitlyn MacKenna?

* This appeared in December of 2004 (via Ansteorra).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Kaitlyn McKenna?.

This error was corrected on the 09/2005 errata letter (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2005/09/05-09err.html).

Herveus: corrected


# Hans Faust dem herlat
* This name, registered in November of 2000 (via Ansteorra), was corrected to Hans Faust der herlat in October of 2002 (via Ansteorra).
# Hans Faust der herlat
* This appeared in April of 2003 (via Ansteorra).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Hans Faust dem herlat.

Given the 10/2002 correction, the 04/2003 entry is not a mis-spelling.

Herveus: corrected


David Drzislav
* This appeared at some point as a mis-spelling of David Drzislav. The error was corrected in September of 2000 (via Atenveldt)
Full form: David Dr{zv}islav
* This appeared in July of 1999 (via Atenveldt).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of David Drzislav.
Full form: David Dr{zv}islav

Rikharšr inn Vegandi Svannson
* This appeared in July of 1999 (via the Middle).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Rikharšr inn Vegandi Svansson.
* This appeared at some point as a mis-spelling of Rikharšr inn Vegandi Svansson. The error was corrected in September of 2000 (via the Middle)

These two notes about the mis-spelling can be corrected into one.

Herveus: ...or something like that... corrected


# Ardanroe, Shire of
* This branch-name was registered in June of 1984 (via Meridies).
* This appeared in November of 1994 (via Meridies).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Ardenroe, Shire of.
* This appeared in August of 1995 (via Meridies).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Ardenroe, Shire of.
# Ardenroe, Shire of
* This branch-name, registered in November of 1982 (via Meridies), was changed to Ardanroe, Shire of in June of 1984 (via Meridies).

The first and fourth bullet points mean that the second and third are not in fact errors.

Herveus: noted and corrected


# Margaret Hepburn of Ardrossan

* The following badge associated with this name was registered in August of 2003 (via the Outlands):
(Fieldless) A marguerite proper charged on the seeds with the Roman capital letters M and H conjoined azure.
a marguerite proper appears to be Or

"A daisy proper is argent, seeded Or" per the 05/2007 LoAR.
JML: Margaret's marguerite is argent, seeded Or.

Herveus: noted and corrected



Forgotten Sea, Barony of, has two badges with poplar trees. At least one of these trees are classified under "tree - rounded shape". Poplar trees are, apparently, elongated. Reblazons will be appearing in the 07-09 LoAR, but this one needs to be re-classified.

Herveus: ... but the reblazon ditched the word "poplar", so things are all copacetic.


# Bianca of Dismal Fogs
* This appeared in March of 1987 (via the West).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Bianca of the Dismal Fogs.

The error actually occured on the March 1988 LoAR, not the March 1987 LoAR.

Herveus: corrected
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# Seumus MacAonghuis? MhicDhubhshith?

* This appeared in June of 1993 (via Ansteorra).
It appears to have been a mis-spelling of Seumas MacAonghuis? MhicDhubhshith?.

This error was corrected on the July 2006 errata letter, but since that correction didn't get in to the OandA?, it was corrected again on the 09 2007 errata letter.

Herveus: it's in there now...


It appears that a description containing a count of "4" fails to be found to be compatible with "2 or more". On the face of it, that should not happen. This means digging carefully into the fully-fleshed out compatibility matrix.

The specific case, found by Teceangl, is Havoise de Rohan, who fails to appear in the category "Lozenge - 2 or more". If you change the search to "LOZENGE:4" or "LOZENGE:3 or more", she shows up. Weird.

Herveus:

I think I've fixed this on oanda.sca.org.


The OandA? has:

MĀns Knutsson
* This name was registered in March of 2000 (via Drachenwald).

His name was actually registered with a lower-case a-ring in the given name, not an upper case a-circumflex:

Måns Knutsson. Name and device. Per pale sable and argent all goutty counterchanged, a sickle gules .

Herveus: fixed



Sine ni Mhoraig appears in the database as a device with no name registration. The LoAR lists
the entry as a device (and there are "name and device" items nearby). The scanned paperwork indicates
"name - OK", so I think this was an inadvertent omission from the LoAR.

Herveus: corrected



This entry from the 07/2003 LoAR
Paul O'Flaherty. Name and device. Azure, three triangles conjoined, one and two, Or.
does not appear in the category TRIANGLE so far as I can tell.

Herveus: corrected



In the device entry for Andre la Flamme, the azure bordure is mis-indexed as 'brown'.

Herveus: corrected



This appeared under SUN:argent:1:uncharged, but the sun is Or, not argent.
# Padrig Saethydd
* The following device associated with this name was registered in April of 2006 (via the East):
Quarterly sable and azure, a sun Or and in chief three increscents argent.

Herveus: corrected


It looks like Shire of Marcaster and Barony of Marcaster need to get connected up with each other in the database:

# Marcaster, Barony of

* The following badge associated with this name was registered at some point and associated with order name in November of 2006 (via Trimaris):
Azure, issuant from the battlements of a demi-tower a banner Or, a tierce wavy paly wavy argent and azure.
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in November of 2006 (via Trimaris):
Azure, issuant from the battlements of a demi-tower a banner Or, a tierce wavy paly wavy argent and azure.
for Order of the Golden Standard
* The following device associated with this name was registered in November of 2006 (via Trimaris):
Azure, a castle within a laurel wreath Or, a tierce wavy paly wavy azure and argent.

# Marcaster, Shire of

* The following badge associated with this name was registered in February of 2006 (via Trimaris):
Azure, a natural fountain Or, a tierce wavy paly wavy argent and azure.
* This branch name was updated to Marcaster, Barony of in November of 2006 (via Trimaris).
* This branch-name was registered in December of 2004 (via Trimaris).
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in February of 2006 (via Trimaris):
Azure, issuant from the battlements of a demi-tower a beacon Or enflamed proper, a tierce wavy paly wavy argent and azure.
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in February of 2006 (via Trimaris):
Azure, a brazier Or enflamed proper, a tierce wavy paly wavy argent and azure.
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in February of 2006 (via Trimaris):
Azure, issuant from the battlements of a demi-tower a banner Or, a tierce wavy paly wavy argent and azure.

Herveus: corrected


This appears in both BIRD:stooping to dexter:1 and BIRD:stooping to sinister:1 --

Barre FitzRobert? of York
* The following badge associated with this name was registered in April of 1996 (via the Outlands):
(Fieldless) On a sun Or a horned owl perched atop a spear azure.

But shouldn't it be in BIRD:azure:close to dexter:1?

Herveus: the owl's posture was not specified in the indexing, so it matched all postures
...corrected


This is also in the same category:

# Anthony fitz Robert
* The following device associated with this name was registered in September of 1991 (via the West):
Per fess Or and vert, on a pale counterchanged, between in chief two martlets, in base a martlet vert.

This should be listed in BIRD:3 or more

Nope. There is a secondary group of 2 and a tertiary group of 1.
There is no group of 3.



These are in annulet - 1 - argent, but have no annulets:

Eric of Eisental
The following device associated with this name was registered in August of 1999 (via the East):
Sable, a fir tree within roundels conjoined in annulo argent.

The roundels conjoined in annulo have the appearance of an annulet invected,
which is how it is indexed.



I have noticed that the phrase "statant erect affronty" has been catalogued in four different ways. Personally I think some consistency would be a good thing here. There are 26 registered items that used the phrase: 11 are older and thus have no description of the creature and 15 have descriptions that vary from: affronte, passant, rampant & statant. Estrill

Herveus: in the Ordinary, only cats and dogs get grouped by posture at all.
Frogs and turtles don't get posture applied at all.

Presently, postures break down into several disjoint sets:

rampant/addorsed/combattant/rampant to dexter/rampant to sinister

passant/statant/passant to dexter/passant to sinister/statant to dexter/statant to sinister

tergiant

affronte

couchant/dormant/couchant to dexter/couchant to sinister/dormant to dexter/dormant to sinister

sejant/sejant to dexter/sejant to sinister

For cats and dogs, using affronte would require adding another
division in the ordinary, so I'd be inclined to use rampant, as
that would be the most applicable alternative. ...or else I take
affronte to be a species of rampant. I'd expect there to be a CD
between statant erect affronty and rampant, but given the rarity
of affronty, I think we can don't cause search problems by conflating
them.

For everything else, affronte should be applied as the posture.

I've fixed what needed fixing.



The following are in BEAST-BEAR:argent:1 and should be in MONSTER-SEA BEAR

Richard the Gude
* The following device associated with this name was registered in December of 1983 (via Caid):
Vert, a sea-bear erect and on a base engrailed argent a skull gules.
Leifr Beorn Hrolfsson
* The following device associated with this name was registered in August of 1998 (via the East):
Barry wavy azure and Or, a sea bear erect argent.

they are in MONSTER-SEA, OTHER. There is not "MONSTER-SEA BEAR" category.
They are also listed under BEAST-BEAR for completeness


# Myfanwy Glanmorfa
* The following device associated with this name was registered in January of 2005 (via An Tir):
Per fess azure and vert, a fess wavy cotised wavy argent.

This was in FESS:plain line:uncharged:1, but this fess doesn't have a plain line.

This is indexed as Fess wavy and Fess cotised which puts it in both
places; it's an artifact of the way I index cotised ordinaries.



What's the deal with the quotation marks here?

# Astrum Aureum, House
* This household name was registered to "Jonathon von Trotha" and "Deille of Farnham" in January of 2004 (via Atenveldt).

Herveus: Perhaps the display code should parse it out or drop the quotations,
but it's the normal way to keep a list straight in this situation
in this database.


The January 1980 LOAR states:
"Trude Lacklandia, (change of blazon). Sable, a domestic cat couchant guardant chased argent.

Note: chased means voided but with the interior details and lines still showing as well as the outline."

Currently the device is indexed under CAT:couchant:argent:1 ; the description makes me wonder whether it would more appropriately appear under CAT:couchant:sable:1 . It sounds like the cat is sable, fimbriated and detailed argent.

The scan of the file shows a cat clearly labeled as "argent" on a field
labeled "sable". I don't know what "chased" is really supposed to mean
here.


Genevieve de Belleval
The following device associated with this name was registered in February of 1998 (via the Middle):
Azure, a quill pen argent, in chief three estoilles Or.
? blazon typo for "estoile"

I've seen "estoille" spelled with one and two <l>'s.

JML: not a typo I'm interested in correcting at this time; it's been registered 13 times - plus once in an order name.

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